Some Thoughts For Thursday: 16 March 2017

There are disgusting versions of Baby-Hands McDrumpf all over the world, sadly. People who spout hate-filled rhetoric, spewing their vile dreck on every platform, going as far as using the bait-and-switch technique of “hey, look at this topic about hunting and camping” and then “cleverly” tossing in some thinly-veiled, bull-headed, supremacist nonsense. Their spoon-served shit is eagerly devoured by people who fear and hate those of us who A) aren’t white, and B) don’t ascribe to Judeo-Christian “values,” whatever those are. Being a proud pagan, I view ALL “organized” religions with a critical eye. Anything that is designed to control others should be looked at critically, don’t you think? Unfortunately, the interwebs make it easier for simple-minded fools to congregate and shout each other down in echo-chambers. That is the main, but not sole, reason I’m not on Facebook, Twitter, and other sites like that.

At any rate, Samantha Bee and John Oliver keep things real and in perspective, as always! It’s nice to be able to hear some sense being spoken, in the midst of the chaotic cacophony that others choose to engage in. They spend endless amounts of time arguing about minutiae…but get nothing of value done.

15 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. leggypeggy
    Mar 16, 2017 @ 12:48:22

    Pauline Hanson pretends to respect all faiths and colours, but we know it’s a lie.

  2. Tony Single
    Mar 16, 2017 @ 14:08:21

    I’m ashamed to say that Pauline Hanson is one of ours. I wish she wasn’t, but alas… racism is actually a big problem here. 😦

    • sepultura13
      Mar 17, 2017 @ 08:53:47

      It sure is…and I appreciate your being honest about that fact!

      I dated a guy who was from Adelaide, and he had some interesting tales to tell. Perhaps you can answer this question: are there still segregated beaches there? Not just ones deemed “Private” by hotels, spas, or other clubs – but genuine, “No Blacks (or “Black-fellers”) Allowed”? Other Aussies haven’t answered me this, for some reason.

      • Tony Single
        Mar 18, 2017 @ 03:33:39

        I’m not sure why they wouldn’t answer such a question because thankfully I can say, ‘No.’ I’m pretty sure someone like Ms Hanson would like us to go back to that time though.

      • sepultura13
        Mar 18, 2017 @ 13:02:19

        Thank you for your candor, and that’s a good thing to know. I think other people didn’t answer the question, because they chose to take umbrage at my audacity for daring to ask the question in the first place. They let the question itself offend them, for whatever reason!

        Ms. Hanson is identical to the Orange Hitler, it appears – his “Make America Great Again” slogan is designed for those types who want to “take the country back” to the Dark Ages.

      • Tony Single
        Mar 19, 2017 @ 03:50:06

        It also worries me that this seems to be a trend happening right across the world at the moment. Everyone seems to be voting in people like this, and for the life of me I don’t understand why. It shakes your faith in the human race really…

      • sepultura13
        Mar 19, 2017 @ 15:43:53

        Sadly, its a trend that has been growing over the past decade…but I’m labeled “racist” for pointing it out. It has finally become obvious to many others – too damned late, in my not-so-humble-opinion.

        As far as faith in my fellow humanoids, I’ve had very little for a good number of years, for good reason. It is what it is.
        😎

      • leggypeggy
        Mar 18, 2017 @ 14:59:27

        I’ve lived in Australia since 1982 and have never heard of segregated beaches. My husband, who is from South Australia, said its unlikely there were ever segregated beaches anywhere in the country, but it is just possible. He said Queensland did have some odd rules way back when. He also said that, in the past, New South Wales had segregated swimming pools.

        Segregation or not, like Tony Single, I am ashamed at the level of racism that exists in Australia. I’m also ashamed that our leaders don’t have the courage or conviction to say, at every opportunity, that racist behaviour is un-Australian and should not be part of our social fabric.

      • sepultura13
        Mar 18, 2017 @ 18:19:24

        As I mentioned to Tony Single, I dated a man from Adelaide. He was born there in 1964, and lived in many places in Australia all of his life – so, I would venture that he was quite aware of segregation and many other racist things in the country “Down Under.” Just like my father, who is a WWII veteran, knows the reality of living in the Deep South from the turn of the 20th century – he was born in Tennessee, and lived in Alabama, Georgia, and Louisiana before moving to the Pacific Northwestern area. When it comes to history, speaking with people who’ve lived it tends to be more accurate than selectively edited schoolbooks.

        “Segregation or not, like Tony Single, I am ashamed at the level of racism that exists in Australia. I’m also ashamed that our leaders don’t have the courage or conviction to say, at every opportunity, that racist behaviour is un-Australian and should not be part of our social fabric.”

        I never expect political leaders anywhere to be completely honest about the ills infecting their various societies. That being said, you and Tony Single are the only Australian bloggers whom I’ve spoken with, who are candid about the racist behaviour and mindset of your fellow countrymen and -women. It wasn’t that long ago that some shameful act was shown on television down that way. IIRC, it showed people in “Blackface” pretending to be the Jackson 5. This is why visiting Australia, for me, will most likely never happen. New Zealand might not be any better, unfortunately! I’ve wanted to visit the Southern Hemisphere for some time, but if I have to be as vigilant as I would have to be in the American Deep South, or Germany and other sub-Arctic European nations, then I might just take a pass. Travel is to be enjoyed, and not existing on tenterhooks!
        😎

      • Tony Single
        Mar 19, 2017 @ 16:13:12

        It’s likely that you wouldn’t be subjected to any overt (or outrightly violent) racism if you visited here. That only ever usually comes out when copious amounts of alcohol are involved. The kind you’re more likely to experience is under-the-radar racism. (Just as bad, in my opinion.) Having said that, I hold out hope that we are getting better as a nation. We’ve always been one of the more successful multicultural countries on the planet in that we, on the surface at least, seem to welcome tourists with open arms. We’re kind of a nation of contradictions that way, but with more and more Asian folks and those of other ethnicities living here… well, I hope to god we improve. 🙂

      • sepultura13
        Mar 20, 2017 @ 09:35:41

        “It’s likely that you wouldn’t be subjected to any overt (or outrightly violent) racism if you visited here. That only ever usually comes out when copious amounts of alcohol are involved.”

        In other words, just like here in the States! That’s essentially the point that I was trying to make in my conversation with Peggy – our countries really aren’t that different. Arguing how they may or may not differ is moot.

        “The kind you’re more likely to experience is under-the-radar racism. (Just as bad, in my opinion.)”

        Covert racism is certainly more insidious, from my personal experience; it is prevalent here in the Pacific Northwestern U.S., for example. I always figured that the sort of racism that I’d experience in the Land of Oz would be similar to the type I’d encounter if I ever go to the Deep South here in the U.S. – Texas, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Louisiana and Florida, just to name a few.

        As far as tourism goes, I’ve never liked tourists. When I travel, I want to experience the place(s) that I go without a paid guide – not counting swimming with sharks or climbing some distant peak. At any rate, this has now gone off-topic – but, I thank you for your honesty and candor!
        😎

      • leggypeggy
        Mar 19, 2017 @ 16:59:06

        I think you are over-judging racism in Australia and it should be no reason to keep you from visiting. I see an overwhelming difference in the racist attitudes and behaviours displayed in the US versus Australia. For some reason, when I am in the US, I feel the racism and hostility. I don’t feel that here.
        For example, Western Australia went to the polls last week. Pauline Hanson’s candidates were predicted to get up to 13 per cent of the vote. They got less than 5; and voting is compulsory in Australia.
        Just yesterday I stood in line at the farmer’s market checkout with a woman wearing the hijab. We started to chat and she told me she was from Iraq. I asked her how long she’d been in Australia. She’s been here a year. I asked how it was going. She said ‘so-so’. That it took time to find her way, to learn the customs, to meet new people, to learn the language and even to find ingredients she was used to. Then I asked, ‘but have people been kind to you?’ And she said, ‘Yes very kind.’

      • sepultura13
        Mar 20, 2017 @ 09:57:13

        “I think you are over-judging racism in Australia and it should be no reason to keep you from visiting. I see an overwhelming difference in the racist attitudes and behaviours displayed in the US versus Australia. For some reason, when I am in the US, I feel the racism and hostility. I don’t feel that here.”

        I didn’t say that I would never visit Australia. That being said, ‘Oz’ is really no different than the States, and there are some places in this country that I would be just as leery about setting foot in. It doesn’t mean that I would never go to those places – I just like to be prepared. As far as you feeling the racism and hostility when you visit the U.S., I find that fascinating. I’d ask how you, as a white person, feel that way, but your bringing it up is a derailment to this topic. If you wish to answer, please do so in my ‘Open Comment’ thread.

        This topic, originally, was about how the Drumpf is a festering pustule who is making a mockery of the political system – and how his ilk are doing the same in other countries. People like Pauline Hanson, Lard-Ass McDrumpf, Geert Wilders, and the ass-hats behind Brexit didn’t just appear out of nowhere.

        “Just yesterday I stood in line at the farmer’s market checkout with a woman wearing the hijab. We started to chat and she told me she was from Iraq. I asked her how long she’d been in Australia. She’s been here a year. I asked how it was going. She said ‘so-so’. That it took time to find her way, to learn the customs, to meet new people, to learn the language and even to find ingredients she was used to. Then I asked, ‘but have people been kind to you?’ And she said, ‘Yes very kind.’”

        Okay – and, your point is…what, exactly? Of course people can be kind. They can also be ignorant, hateful, and willfully cruel. I note that you deflected from my examples to talk about some random Muslim woman you met. That doesn’t address what I asked about segregated beaches in Australia and whether or not they still exist.

        I understand being uncomfortable when acknowledging shameful facts of Australia’s historically shabby treatment of the indigenous population; that shameful history is shared with the States, Canada, South Africa, Brazil, the U.K., et cetera, ad nauseam, ad infinitum. Disagreeing is fine – denial is disingenuous.

        Now, to address the 25 emails from the trolls and sock-puppets who are enraged that they spew their filth in my comment section…happy Autumnal Equinox to you and yours!
        😎

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